people would leave um but then also might be a really good partner yeah if um if the CIO stays true that's been my other experience too is cios in front of the group will say certain things and then you get behind a closed door and it's like then you get the real deal and and hopefully you don't have that she came back later um after everyone left it was kind of like you know our goal in partnering with you is because we want a partnership and you know this beginning project will kind of dictate you know he was like I I want this to go well and us to use you for the implementation so he was like you know I'm not saying it's all dependent on this project but and I'm like well no that's any project like it's always the last impression like do you want to keep using them or not so I like that's totally fair you know if this sucks like you're not going to want to do business with us like that's that's logical yeah