the very first conference I went to was a McAfee conference and who was the I think it was Third Eye Blind that's my that's my band and I saw them it was Third Eye Blind yeah and I was just like I'm pretty sure it was like 12 years ago at this point but it was really good like the concert was really good and there was this uh trend on Instagram that I didn't do but it had a picture of a Discman a Sony Discman and I said reply with what would be inside your Discman and I was like Third Eye Blind I listened the heck out of there came out to the studio was hi I'm Alice hi I'm Justin and you're listening to the utterly awesome podcast who knows what we'll talk about [Music]